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SKOPJE is Slav Bulgarian Not macedonian
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hry mdas
2014-10-12 06:34:23 UTC
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FYROMs Ambassador to Canada, admitted, "We are not related to the northern
Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a
Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian." He also
commented "there is some confusion about the identity of the people of this
country."
Phillip Helbig---undress to reply
2014-10-12 11:16:06 UTC
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Post by hry mdas
FYROMs Ambassador to Canada, admitted,
He didn't "admit" it, he said it.
Post by hry mdas
"We are not related to the northern
Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a
Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian."
Has any serious Macedonian (i.e. any Slavic inhabitant of FYROM) ever
claimed anything otherwise?
Post by hry mdas
He also
commented "there is some confusion about the identity of the people of this
country."
That might be the case. Most people are confused about countries other
than their own, or even their own.
Post by hry mdas
Subject: SKOPJE is Slav Bulgarian Not macedonian
This is a different matter. It depends on how you define "Macedonian".
In ANY other context, it is the geographical region which matters. Buy
a "history of England" and you will find Picts, Celts, Romans, Angles,
Saxons, Jutes, Vikings, Normans, etc. Only one (the Angles) lent their
name to the language. Before Piltdown Man was shown to be a fraud,
there was even a book about him, The First Englishman. Same thing for
the history of France, Germany, etc. It ALWAYS refers to the region.
There are also other examples where a province in one country (like
Macedonia in Greece) has the same name as another sovereign country
(like Slavic Macedonia), for example Bretagne (Brittany) in France and
Grande-Bretagne (Great Britain).

Ask anyone in England "Was King Arthur English" and the reply will be
"Of course." The fact that his claim to fame was fighting AGAINST the
Angles (i.e. the English) doesn't matter. What matters is that he lived
in the region. For that matter, the Germans see Karl den Großen as
German and the French see Charlemagne as French.

It is only in Greece that people are too stupid to know what the
conventions are and claim that Slavic Macedonia is somehow doing
something strange. It is the Greeks who are strange here. It is
probably an over-reaction to the fact (published in several scientific
journals) that modern-day Greeks are genetically indistinguishable from
Turks. Maybe some day people in the Former Turkish Colony of Greece
will learn this.

Modern Greece also has essentially nothing to do with Ancient Greece.
In Ancient Greece, nudity and homosexuality were common and reason was
valued.
hry mdas
2014-10-13 07:12:29 UTC
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Post by hry mdas
FYROMs Ambassador to Canada, admitted,
He didn't "admit" it, he said it.
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Then the appropriate slav-bulgarian
name should be vardarska-banovina
not by STEALING the history of macedonia.
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Post by hry mdas
"We are not related to the northern
Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a
Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian."
Has any serious Macedonian (i.e. any Slavic inhabitant of FYROM) ever
claimed anything otherwise?
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yes, they claim to be descended from alexander the great
more STEALING.
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Post by hry mdas
He also
commented "there is some confusion about the identity of the people of this
country."
That might be the case. Most people are confused about countries other
than their own, or even their own.
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then provide legitimate, verified, unbiased DNA
genealogy-descendancy evidence.
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Post by hry mdas
Subject: SKOPJE is Slav Bulgarian Not macedonian
This is a different matter. It depends on how you define "Macedonian".
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macedonian is a descendant of alexander the great
or a citizen invited and recognised by alexander
and his royal family.
Post by Phillip Helbig---undress to reply
In ANY other context, it is the geographical region which matters. Buy
a "history of England" and you will find Picts, Celts, Romans, Angles,
Saxons, Jutes, Vikings, Normans, etc. Only one (the Angles) lent their
name to the language.
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the angles conquered the other tribes and INVITED
them. both sides agreed.
Alexander the great did not invite slavs.
both sides have not agreed.

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Post by Phillip Helbig---undress to reply
It is only in Greece that people are too stupid to know what the
conventions are and claim that Slavic Macedonia is somehow doing
something strange.
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the slavs are not descended from Alexander the Great
Alexander did not invite slavs to be citizens in sharing
the name.
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It is the Greeks who are strange here.
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only by your racist mind
only by your skopjean sponsored propaganda.
Post by Phillip Helbig---undress to reply
It is probably an over-reaction to the fact (published in several
scientific
journals) that modern-day Greeks are genetically indistinguishable from
Turks. Maybe some day people in the Former Turkish Colony of Greece
will learn this.
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more skopjean sponsored propaganda
more from your racist mind.
what scientific journals. provide a website address.
and DNA analysis shows monkeys share 98% dna of
humans. this concludes nothing.
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Modern Greece also has essentially nothing to do with Ancient Greece.
In Ancient Greece, nudity and homosexuality were common and reason was
valued.
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modern greece shares a language descended from 'koine'
the common language promoted by alexander the great.
Phillip Helbig---undress to reply
2014-10-13 19:36:46 UTC
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FYROMs Ambassador to Canada, admitted,
He didn't "admit" it, he said it.
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Then the appropriate slav-bulgarian
name should be vardarska-banovina
not by STEALING the history of macedonia.
No. England is still called England even though after the Angles the
Vikings came, then the Normans. Get over it.
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yes, they claim to be descended from alexander the great
more STEALING.
Again, no serious Macedonian politician has ever claimed this. Anyway,
Alexander was gay and probably didn't leave many descendants.
Post by hry mdas
macedonian is a descendant of alexander the great
or a citizen invited and recognised by alexander
and his royal family.
Your definition, which conflicts with ALL other similar historical
definitions.
Post by hry mdas
the angles conquered the other tribes and INVITED
them. both sides agreed.
Yeah, right. Vikings and Normans were invited.
Post by hry mdas
Alexander the great did not invite slavs.
No, they came long after he had died.
Post by hry mdas
the slavs are not descended from Alexander the Great
Alexander did not invite slavs to be citizens in sharing
the name.
No serious person has ever claimed this.
Post by hry mdas
Post by Phillip Helbig---undress to reply
It is the Greeks who are strange here.
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only by your racist mind
only by your skopjean sponsored propaganda.
Pay back all the money you stole from the EU via forging reports about
the economy before joining the Euro then come back.
hry mdas
2014-10-14 00:48:43 UTC
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Then the appropriate slav-bulgarian
name should be vardarska-banovina
not by STEALING the history of macedonia.
No. England is still called England even though after the Angles the
Vikings came, then the Normans. Get over it.
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the english invited and accepted the other tribes.
the english still have power over their territory.
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Post by hry mdas
yes, they claim to be descended from alexander the great
more STEALING.
Again, no serious Macedonian politician has ever claimed this. Anyway,
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the renaming of airport in skopje to 'alexander the great'
the statue of alexander recently purchased by the government
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Post by hry mdas
macedonian is a descendant of alexander the great
or a citizen invited and recognised by alexander
and his royal family.
Your definition, which conflicts with ALL other similar historical
definitions.
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the other tribes were not invited
they are not macedonian
the other tribes were baptised to be
christians and must recognize the truth, not lie.
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Post by hry mdas
the angles conquered the other tribes and INVITED
them. both sides agreed.
Yeah, right. Vikings and Normans were invited.
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they were not forcibly expelled it seems.
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Post by hry mdas
Alexander the great did not invite slavs.
No, they came long after he had died.
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if he died then why STEAL
and break a bible commandment.
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Post by hry mdas
the slavs are not descended from Alexander the Great
Alexander did not invite slavs to be citizens in sharing
the name.
No serious person has ever claimed this.
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you find them on the internet.
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Post by Phillip Helbig---undress to reply
It is the Greeks who are strange here.
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only by your racist mind
only by your skopjean sponsored propaganda.
Pay back all the money you stole from the EU via forging reports about
the economy before joining the Euro then come back.
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the greeks are baptised as christians
and the bible talks about the beasts of revelation
the european union is one of those beasts.
we will not be dictated to- by an enemy of God.
the germans invaded us, and we must take
compensation.
Phillip Helbig---undress to reply
2014-10-15 07:16:59 UTC
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Then the appropriate slav-bulgarian
name should be vardarska-banovina
not by STEALING the history of macedonia.
No. England is still called England even though after the Angles the
Vikings came, then the Normans. Get over it.
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the english invited and accepted the other tribes.
I am following up this comment so that it will be archived for all the
world to see. The English invited the Vikings and the Normans. Yeah,
right. Revisionist history at its worst.
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yes, they claim to be descended from alexander the great
more STEALING.
Again, no serious Macedonian politician has ever claimed this. Anyway,
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the renaming of airport in skopje to 'alexander the great'
the statue of alexander recently purchased by the government
This is not a claim of descent. It is like the English looking back at
King Arthur, or the French at Charlemagne (who spoke German and was
ethnically German).
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Post by Phillip Helbig---undress to reply
Post by hry mdas
the angles conquered the other tribes and INVITED
them. both sides agreed.
Yeah, right. Vikings and Normans were invited.
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they were not forcibly expelled it seems.
Because the Vikings and Normans were better soldiers.
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Post by Phillip Helbig---undress to reply
Post by hry mdas
the slavs are not descended from Alexander the Great
Alexander did not invite slavs to be citizens in sharing
the name.
No serious person has ever claimed this.
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you find them on the internet.
Not everything on the internet is serious. Your claims demonstrate
this.

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