Post by ++Post by LyngosIs my ignorance
Yes, it is your ignorance
Post by Lyngosor all that destruction by the Bulgars,Slavs,and Skopians that eradicated
everything connected with the Vlachian presence,
Macedonians definately have not erased the Aromanian presence in
Macedonia. Yep, it's your ignorance again.
Post by Lyngosso as the "true Makedonians" will be left the mutts from Skopje?
No person on earth is or should be called a mutt. Here , it is not your
ignorance writing, just your bad manners
has nothing to do with Macedonia
Post by Lyngoseven Hotel EPINAL was builded atop one of our churches.As for our
freschoes..........which ones, the ones before or after tito and his
cartel?
Where is this hotel?
Post by Lyngosre you checking my reaction regarding the New teritorries? The idiots of
Athens with Venizelos
made another big mistake, forced by the London boys. THEY, didn't want
Makedonia to be part of Hellas and THEY DON'T WANT
IT NOW.Simple like that !Hellas was ALWAYS, THE UPPER PORTION OF TODAY'S
GREECE, not the lower half and/or the Aegean islands.
Can you imagine a country by the name Hellas, ALL THE WAY TO GENOUSOS
RIVER, TO THE ADRIATIC SEA, TO KRUSOVO, MELENIKO,STWMNITSA?
That is where Hellas was, and there where it should arrive. The Patriarch
and his ARCHONS, are DIVIDING HELLENISM, PART OF WHICH
OF COURSE IS ALSO MAKEDONISM.
Point is, Macedonia was never a part of the Church of Greece or the
Patriarchate of Constantinople canonically, only by force or, in the 20th
century, by design associated with force. And the fact that it should be
made a part of the Serbian Church after the first Yugoslavia took it over
is even more ludicrous.
No, that's part of your own ignornace, Gail.
"New Territories" was due to the area being still enslaved by the
Ottoman Turks till the Greeks rescued and finally freed
that ancient and medieval Greek area.
As for the rest of your false statements:
The real Macedonia:
http://www.macedonia.com/english/history/regions1.html
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http://www.macedonian-heritage.gr/Maps/mapSeq_Map01.html
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The Dardanians, Paeonians, and Illyrians are shown below, and those
are the ancient inhabitants of the Fyrom area....NOT ancient
Macedonians:
http://www.soros.org.mk/archive/G01/A01/as0106.htm
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One only has to look below to see that the current Fyrom Slavic majority
are simply West Bulgarians and have no connection to 'Macedonia' anything:
In a letter to Prof. Marin Drinov of May 25, 1888 Kuzman Shapkarev writes:
"But even stranger is the name Macedonians, which was imposed on us only 10
to 15 years ago by outsiders, and not as something by our own
intellectuals... Yet the people in Macedonia know nothing of that ancient
name, reintroduced today with a cunning aim on the one hand and a stupid one
on the other. They know the older word: "Bugari", although mispronounced:
they have even adopted it as peculiarly theirs, inapplicable to other
Bulgarians. You can find more about this in the introduction to the booklets
I am sending you. They call their own Macedono-Bulgarian dialect the
"Bugarski language", while the rest of the Bulgarian dialects they refer to
as the "Shopski language". (Makedonski pregled, IX, 2, 1934, p. 55; the
original letter is kept in the Marin Drinov Museum in Sofia, and it is
available for examination and study)
Here is the text in the original:
"No pochudno e imeto Makedonci, koeto naskoro, edvay predi 10-15 godini, ni
natrapiha i to otvqn, a ne kakto nyakoi mislyat ot samata nasha
inteligenciya... Narodqt obache v Makedoniya ne znae nishto za tova
arhaichesko, a dnes, s lukava cel ot edna strana, s glupeshka ot druga,
podnoveno prozvishte; toy si znae postaroto: Bugari, makar i nepravilno
proiznasyano, daje osvoyava si go kato sobstveno i preimushtestveno svoe,
nejeli za drugite Bqlgari. Za tova shte vidite i v predgovora na izpratenite
mi knijici. Toy naricha Bugarski ezik svoeto Makaedono-bqlgarsko narechie,
kogato drugite bqlgarski narechiya naricha Shopski."
And here:
Reference source for Gotse Delchev's numerous utterings of 'We are
Bulgarians'......
http://www.ucc.ie/staff/jprodr/macedonia/macmodnat2.html
Even Gotse Delchev, the famous Macedonian revolutionary leader, whose nom de
guerre was Ahil (Achilles), refers to "the Slavs of Macedonia as
'Bulgarians' in an offhanded manner without seeming to indicate that such a
designation was a point of contention" (Perry 1988:23).
In his correspondence Gotse Delchev often states clearly and simply, "We are
Bulgarians" (MacDermott 1978:192,273).
And here:
For fair use only.
http://members.tripod.com/~dimobetchev/documents/ilinden.htm
" Considering the critical and terrible situation that the Bulgarian
population of the Bitola Vilayet found itself in and following the ravages
and cruelties done by the Turkish troops and irregulars, ... considering
the fact that everything Bulgarian runs the risk of perishing and
disappearing without a trace because of violence, hunger, and the upcoming
misery, the Head Quarters finds it to be its obligation to draw the
attention of the respected Bulgarian government to the pernicious
consequences vis-a-vis the Bulgarian nation, in case the latter does not
fulfill its duty towards its brethren of race here in an imposing fashion
which is necessary by virtue of the present ordeal for the common Bulgarian
Fatherland...
...Being in command of our people's movement, we appeal to you on behalf of
the enslaved Bulgarian to help him in the most effective way - by waging
war.We believe that the response of the people in free Bulgaria will be the
same.
... No Bulgarian school is opened, neither will it be opened... Nobody
thinks of education when he is outlawed by the state because he bears the
name Bulgar...
Waiting for your patriotic intervention, we are pleased to inform you that
we have in our disposition the armed forces we have spared by now.
The Head Quarters of the Ilinden Uprising"
Damian GRUEV, Boris SARAFOV, Atanas LOZANTCHEV
This memorandum was handed to Dr.Kozhuharov, the Bulgarian consul in Bitola,
and transmitted by him to the government in Sofia with report N441 from
September 17th, 1903. "
And here:
http://www.bulgaria.com/VMRO/document.htm
http://www.bulgaria.com/VMRO/documen1.htm
http://www.bulgaria.com/VMRO/documen2.htm
http://www.bulgaria.com/VMRO/documen3.htm
http://www.bulgaria.com/VMRO/drzhava.htm
http://www.bulgaria.com/VMRO/exarchy.htm
http://w3.tyenet.com/kozlich/mapovska4a.htm
http://www.bulgaria.com/VMRO/bitola06.htm
http://www.historymuseum.org/items.php3?nid=199&name=ochrid
And here, the real truth of the Macedonian Greeks:
http://www.hri.org/docs/macque/
http://www.cc.ece.ntua.gr/~conster/
http://www.macedonian-heritage.gr/
http://www.macedonian-heritage.gr/FAQ.html#Q1
http://www.macedonian-heritage.gr/Maps/mapSeq_Map01.html
http://www.macedonian-heritage.gr/HellenicMacedonia/en/img_D16a.html
http://users.hol.gr/~ankar/Macedonia/
http://users.hol.gr/~ankar/Macedonia/history.html
http://users.hol.gr/~ankar/Macedonia/affair.html
http://www.forthnet.gr/EAAN/martis.htm
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/index.html
http://www.anemos.com/Diaspora/macedonia/Macedonia_Index.html
http://www.anemos.com/Diaspora/macedonia/Macedonia_FAQ.html
from: Spirit of Truth
(using June's e-mail to communicate to you)!
