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Macedonia and Macedonians in the Bible
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Macedon
2006-03-18 08:41:42 UTC
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Inspired by the Sub-Saharan coloured vision of Macedonia and Macedonian
history, I am enclosing the following passages from the Bible.

Acts 16:9

During the night Paul had a vision of a man of Macedonia standing and
begging him, "Come over to Macedonia and help us."



Acts 16:10

After Paul had seen the vision, we got ready at once to leave for Macedonia,
concluding that God had called us to preach the gospel to them.



Acts 16:12

From there we traveled to Philippi, a Roman colony and the leading city of
that district of Macedonia. And we stayed there several days.



Acts 18:5

When Silas and Timothy came from Macedonia, Paul devoted himself exclusively
to preaching, testifying to the Jews that Jesus was the Christ.



Acts 19:21

After all this had happened, Paul decided to go to Jerusalem, passing
through Macedonia and Achaia. "After I have been there," he said, "I must
visit Rome also."



Acts 19:22

He sent two of his helpers, Timothy and Erastus, to Macedonia, while he
stayed in the province of Asia a little longer.



Acts 19:29

Soon the whole city was in an uproar. The people seized Gaius and
Aristarchus, Paul's traveling companions from Macedonia, and rushed as one
man into the theater.



Acts 20:1

When the uproar had ended, Paul sent for the disciples and, after
encouraging them, said good-by and set out for Macedonia.



Acts 20:3

Because the Jews made a plot against him just as he was about to sail for
Syria, he decided to go back through Macedonia.



Acts 27:2

We boarded a ship from Adramyttium about to sail for ports along the coast
of the province of Asia, and we put out to sea. Aristarchus, a Macedonian
from Thessalonica, was with us.



Romans 15:26

For Macedonia and Achaia were pleased to make a contribution for the poor
among the saints in Jerusalem.



1 Corinthians 16:5

After I go through Macedonia, I will come to you-for I will be going through
Macedonia.



2 Corinthians 1:16

I planned to visit you on my way to Macedonia and to come back to you from
Macedonia, and then to have you send me on my way to Judea.



2 Corinthians 2:13

I still had no peace of mind, because I did not find my brother Titus there.
So I said good-by to them and went on to Macedonia.



2 Corinthians 7:5

For when we came into Macedonia, this body of ours had no rest, but we were
harassed at every turn-conflicts on the outside, fears within.



2 Corinthians 8:1

And now, brothers, we want you to know about the grace that God has given
the Macedonian churches.



2 Corinthians 9:2

For I know your eagerness to help, and I have been boasting about it to the
Macedonians, telling them that since last year you in Achaia were ready to
give; and your enthusiasm has stirred most of them to action.



2 Corinthians 9:4

For if any Macedonians come with me and find you unprepared, we-not to say
anything about you-would be ashamed of having been so confident.



2 Corinthians 11:9

And when I was with you and needed something, I was not a burden to anyone,
for the brothers who came from Macedonia supplied what I needed. I have kept
myself from being a burden to you in any way, and will continue to do so.



Philippians 4:15

Moreover, as you Philippians know, in the early days of your acquaintance
with the gospel, when I set out from Macedonia, not one church shared with
me in the matter of giving and receiving, except you only;



1 Thessalonians 1:7

And so you became a model to all the believers in Macedonia and Achaia.



1 Thessalonians 1:8

The Lord's message rang out from you not only in Macedonia and Achaia-your
faith in God has become known everywhere. Therefore we do not need to say
anything about it,



1 Thessalonians 4:10

And in fact, you do love all the brothers throughout Macedonia. Yet we urge
you, brothers, to do so more and more.



1 Timothy 1:3

As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you
may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer.
akritas
2006-03-18 10:56:02 UTC
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It's tue. That's why Paul a Greek inteprenter in his course.
He visited the Greece, frpm Fhillipous until Corinth,
He spoke to the Greeks, from Macedonians until Achaians.

Like the the Greek monks Cyrill and Methodios when speak for the
Christiansm in the Slavic tribes after 500 years!!!!!
Macedon
2006-03-18 22:21:47 UTC
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Paul went from Macedoni to Greece. It is very clear and distinguished in the
Bible. Have a look at Acts 20 and 20:1 (Old English version):

"And after the uproar was ceased, Paul called unto him the disciples, and
embraced them, and departed for to go into Macedonia.
And when he had gone over those parts, and had given them much exhortation,
he came into Greece."

Clearly two separated and unrelated countries. If you are a Christian, you
need to follow the Bible you preach from.
Post by akritas
It's tue. That's why Paul a Greek inteprenter in his course.
He visited the Greece, frpm Fhillipous until Corinth,
He spoke to the Greeks, from Macedonians until Achaians.
Like the the Greek monks Cyrill and Methodios when speak for the
Christiansm in the Slavic tribes after 500 years!!!!!
akritas
2006-03-18 23:50:42 UTC
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Macedon all the racists have full of the "religion" and
colourblindness!!!
Like you.

as about the Acts
17
1. When they took the road through Amphipolis and Apollonia, THEY
REACHED THESSALONICA,(not the Bulgarian Solun) , where there was a
synagogue of the Jews.
2.Following his usual custom, Paul joined them, and for three sabbaths
he entered into discussions with them from the scriptures,
3.expounding and demonstrating that the Messiah had to suffer and rise
from the dead, and that "This is the Messiah, Jesus, whom I proclaim to
you."
4.Some of them were convinced and joined Paul and Silas; so, too, a, A
GREAT NUMBER OF GREEKS WHO WERE WORSHIPERS, and not a few of the
prominent women.


11.These Jews were more fair-minded than those in THESSALONICA,(not the
Bulgarian Solun) ,for they received the word with all willingness and
examined the scriptures daily to determine whether these things were
so.
12.Many of them became believers, as did not a few of the influential
GREEK WOMEN AND MEN

What happened only Greeks and Jews in THESSALONICA ?
Macedon
2006-03-19 05:57:40 UTC
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Post by akritas
Macedon all the racists have full of the "religion" and
colourblindness!!!
What??
Post by akritas
Like you.
as about the Acts
17
1. When they took the road through Amphipolis and Apollonia, THEY
REACHED THESSALONICA,(not the Bulgarian Solun) , where there was a
synagogue of the Jews.
2.Following his usual custom, Paul joined them, and for three sabbaths
he entered into discussions with them from the scriptures,
3.expounding and demonstrating that the Messiah had to suffer and rise
from the dead, and that "This is the Messiah, Jesus, whom I proclaim to
you."
4.Some of them were convinced and joined Paul and Silas; so, too, a, A
GREAT NUMBER OF GREEKS WHO WERE WORSHIPERS, and not a few of the
prominent women.
11.These Jews were more fair-minded than those in THESSALONICA,(not the
Bulgarian Solun) ,for they received the word with all willingness and
examined the scriptures daily to determine whether these things were
so.
12.Many of them became believers, as did not a few of the influential
GREEK WOMEN AND MEN
What happened only Greeks and Jews in THESSALONICA ?
Salonica was as much Greek as it was Jewish. No, not only Greeks and Jews,
but Macedonians as well. Lots of them. See:

Acts 27:2

We boarded a ship from Adramyttium about to sail for ports along the coast
of the province of Asia, and we put out to sea. Aristarchus, a Macedonian
from Thessalonica, was with us.

To save myself from separate replies this one is to Idiotis:
Daniel was from the Old Testament. Alexander was not even born during that
time.
Macedonia and Greece were provinces, clearly separated, unrelated and
distinguished by the Apostoles.

Why does it bother you when someone calls the city Solun, but it does not
bother you if someone calls the city Salonica? What is the difference? Why
do you call the city Thessaloniki, when it was Thessalonica in the Bible?
X***@YAHOO.COM
2006-03-19 16:59:37 UTC
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Post by Macedon
Salonica was as much Greek as it was Jewish. No, not only Greeks and Jews,
Stop deluding yourself your nation has nothing to do with the
Macedonians of the Bible. Your Bulgarian ancestors were not even in
the general region until several centuries later. Your stupidities
know no limit since you are trying to fit facts into your nationalist
agenda which states you are somehow related to these ancient people
even though less than 1 century ago your people and national heroes
were regarded as Bulgarians!

And...you did not answer my question: in what language did Paul address
the Macedonians in?
Post by Macedon
Acts 27:2
We boarded a ship from Adramyttium about to sail for ports along the coast
of the province of Asia, and we put out to sea. Aristarchus, a Macedonian
from Thessalonica, was with us.
Nice argument! If a regional descriptor is used (Macedonian in this
case) instead of the word 'Greek' then they must not have been
Greeks!.Unfortunately for your 'theory' we have other passages in the
Bible that include Greeks by their regional descriptor...are you going
to argue that the Corinthians and the Cretans were not Greek also?

We have spoken openly to you, CORINTHIANS; our heart has been opened
wide: Corinthians 6:11

Crispus, the leader of the synagogue, believed the Lord, along with his
whole household; and many of the CORINTHIANS, when they heard,
believed and were baptized: Acts 18:8

CRETANS and Arabs-we hear them speaking in our own languages the
magnificent acts of God: Acts 2:11
Post by Macedon
Daniel was from the Old Testament. Alexander was not even born during that
time.
Daniel's PROPHECY of Alexander the GREEK KING became true and is
pointed to as an example of a powerful prophetic passage in the Bible.
Of course the prophecy does not fit your nationalist agenda so it must
be false. I will leave it up to you to convince the world's
ecclesiastical institutions that the prophecy is false because a group
of ex-Bulgars wants to incorporate Alexander in their national
mythology.
Post by Macedon
Macedonia and Greece were provinces, clearly separated, unrelated and
distinguished by the Apostoles.
The apostles also distinguished between Achaia and other Greek regions.
So what?
Post by Macedon
Why does it bother you when someone calls the city Solun, but it does not
bother you if someone calls the city Salonica? What is the difference? Why
do you call the city Thessaloniki, when it was Thessalonica in the Bible?
You did not answer the question: If 'ethnic Macedonians' have been
living in Thessaloniki in continuity since the days of Alexander why
would they not preserve the original town name as the common name of
the town..WHY WOULD THEY USE THE SAME NAME THE BULGARIANS USE and WHY
HAVE GREEKS ALWAYS USED THE ORIGINAL TOWN NAME?

Salonica, Thessalonica are all English derivatives of the original
GREEK NAME. SOLUN is the SAME NAME THE BULGARIANS USE. You claim your
people have lived IN THE CITY for over 2,000 years but somehow they
forgot the original town name and adopted the BULGARIAN name? Explain.

Also you did not answer my question pertaining to the geographic region
of FYROM. If we superimpose the modern day borders of FYROM over the
ancient roman province of Macedonia as described in the Bible, does the
vast majority of FYROM's geography fall outside of this region? If so
who lived in the region of FYROM in ancient times???? ...'ethnic
Macedonians'?????
June R Harton
2006-03-21 07:35:40 UTC
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"Macedon" <***@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:op6Tf.10098$***@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Silly. The Holy Bible states unequivocally that the Macedonians were Greek.
Thus it states that you are lying in your posts. Are you an Atheist?

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Chapter 16
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16:1 Then came he to Derbe and Lystra: and, behold, a certain disciple was
there, named Timotheus, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and
believed; but his father was a Greek:
16:2 Which was well reported of by the brethren that were at Lystra and
Iconium.
16:3 Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him
because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his
father was a Greek.
16:4 And as they went through the cities, they delivered them the decrees
for to keep, that were ordained of the apostles and elders which were at
Jerusalem.
16:5 And so were the churches established in the faith, and increased in
number daily.
16:6 Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia,
and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia,
16:7 After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but
the Spirit suffered them not.
16:8 And they passing by Mysia came down to Troas.
16:9 And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of
Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us.
16:10 And after he had seen the vision, immediately we endeavoured to go
into Macedonia, assuredly gathering that the Lord had called us for to
preach the gospel unto them.
16:11 Therefore loosing from Troas, we came with a straight course to
Samothracia, and the next day to Neapolis;
16:12 And from thence to Philippi, which is the chief city of that part of
Macedonia, and a colony: and we were in that city abiding certain days.
16:13 And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where
prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which
resorted thither.
16:14 And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of
Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that
she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul.
16:15 And when she was baptized, and her household, she besought us, saying,
If ye have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come into my house, and
abide there. And she constrained us.
16:16 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed
with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by
soothsaying:
16:17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the
servants of the most high God, which show unto us the way of salvation.
16:18 And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said
to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of
her. And he came out the same hour.
16:19 And when her masters saw that the hope of their gains was gone, they
caught Paul and Silas, and drew them into the marketplace unto the rulers,
16:20 And brought them to the magistrates, saying, These men, being Jews, do
exceedingly trouble our city,
16:21 And teach customs, which are not lawful for us to receive, neither to
observe, being Romans.
16:22 And the multitude rose up together against them: and the magistrates
rent off their clothes, and commanded to beat them.
16:23 And when they had laid many stripes upon them, they cast them into pri
son, charging the jailor to keep them safely:
16:24 Who, having received such a charge, thrust them into the inner prison,
and made their feet fast in the stocks.
16:25 And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto God: and
the prisoners heard them.
16:26 And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of
the prison were shaken: and immediately all the doors were opened, and every
one's bands were loosed.
16:27 And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the
prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself,
supposing that the prisoners had been fled.
16:28 But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we
are all here.
16:29 Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and
fell down before Paul and Silas,
16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be
saved, and thy house.
16:32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in
his house.
16:33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes;
and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.
16:34 And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them,
and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.
16:35 And when it was day, the magistrates sent the serjeants, saying, Let
those men go.
16:36 And the keeper of the prison told this saying to Paul, The magistrates
have sent to let you go: now therefore depart, and go in peace.
16:37 But Paul said unto them, They have beaten us openly uncondemned, being
Romans, and have cast us into prison; and now do they thrust us out privily?
nay verily; but let them come themselves and fetch us out.
16:38 And the serjeants told these words unto the magistrates: and they
feared, when they heard that they were Romans.
16:39 And they came and besought them, and brought them out, and desired
them to depart out of the city.
16:40 And they went out of the prison, and entered into the house of Lydia:
and when they had seen the brethren, they comforted them, and departed.
Chapter 17
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17:1 Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to
Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews:
17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days
reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
17:3 Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen
again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ.
17:4 And some of them believed, and consorted with Paul and Silas; and of
the devout Greeks a great multitude, and of the chief women not a few.
17:5 But the Jews which believed not, moved with envy, took unto them
certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, and gathered a company, and set all
the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house of Jason, and sought to bring
them out to the people.
17:6 And when they found them not, they drew Jason and certain brethren unto
the rulers of the city, crying, These that have turned the world upside down
are come hither also;
17:7 Whom Jason hath received: and these all do contrary to the decrees of
Caesar, saying that there is another king, one Jesus.
17:8 And they troubled the people and the rulers of the city, when they
heard these things.
17:9 And when they had taken security of Jason, and of the other, they let
them go.
17:10 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto
Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.
17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they
received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures
daily, whether those things were so.
17:12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were
Greeks, and of men, not a few.


from: Spirit Of Truth

(using June's e-mail to communicate to you)!

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2006-03-19 01:29:01 UTC
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Post by Macedon
Paul went from Macedoni to Greece. It is very clear and distinguished in the
"And after the uproar was ceased, Paul called unto him the disciples, and
embraced them, and departed for to go into Macedonia.
And when he had gone over those parts, and had given them much exhortation,
he came into Greece."
Clearly two separated and unrelated countries. If you are a Christian, you
need to follow the Bible you preach from.
1. Macedonia and Achaia were ROMAN provinces or ROMAN administrative
units that is why the distinction is made. THESE ARE NOT COUNTRIES YOU
FOOL, THESE ARE ROMAN PROVINCES. ARE YOU GOING TO ARGUE THAT ACHAIA
WAS NOT POPULATED BY GREEKS? Now you whacky propagandist: DO YOU THINK
SKOPJE AND MOST OF THE GEOGRAPHY OF PRESENT DAY FYROM WAS INCLUDED IN
the region of the Roman province of Macedonia?

2.. It is written in the Bible that Alexander was Greek. How will you
whacky nationalist peasants explain the following away??:

"The ram, which thou sawest with horns, is the king of the Medes and
Persians. And the he goat, is the KING OF THE GREEKS, and the great
horn that was between his eyes, the same is the first king. But
whereas when that was broken, there arose up four for it, four kings
shall rise up of his nation, but not with his strength."
Bible: Daniel 8:20-22

"And he said: Dost thou know wherefore I am come to thee? And now I
will return, to fight against the prince of the Persians. When I went
forth, there appeared the PRINCE OF THE GREEKS coming."
Bible: Daniel 10:20

"And from the first year of Darius, the Mede, I stood up, that he
might be strengthened, and confirmed. And now I will shew thee the
truth. Behold, there shall stand yet three kings in Persia, and the
fourth shall be enriched exceedingly above them all: and when he shall
be grown mighty by his riches, he shall stir up all against the
KINGDOM OF GREECE. But there shall rise up a strong king, and shall
rule with great power: and he shall do what he pleaseth. And when he
shall come to his height, his kingdom shall be broken, and it shall be
divided towards the four winds of the heaven: but not to his
posterity, nor according to his power with which he ruled. For his
kingdom shall be rent in pieces, even for strangers, besides these."
Bible: Daniel 11:1-4

3.IN WHAT LANGUAGE DID PAUL ADDRESS THE PEOPLE OF MACEDONIA?

4. In Macedonia Paul is described to have addressed Jews and GREEKS:

ACTS 17
17.1: Now, when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia,
they came to THESSALONICA, where was a synagogue of Jews.

17.2: And some of them believed, and consorted with Paul and Silas; and
of the devout GREEKS a great multitude, and of the chief women
not a few.

17.5: But the Jews which believed not, moved with envy took unto them
certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, and gathered a company, and
set all the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house of Jason,and
sought to bring them out to the people.

17.10: And the bretheren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night
unto Berea: who comming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews."

17.11:These were more noble than those in THESSALONICA, in that they
received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the
scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

17.12: Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women
which were GREEKS, and of men not a few"

5. The original town name of Thessalonica is preserved in the bible.
This is the name the ancient Macedonians gave the town. If 'ethnic
Macedonias' have been living there in CONTINUITY SINCE THE ANCIENT
MACEDONIANS WHY DO YOU USE THE BULGARIAN NAME OF SOLUN FOR THE TOWN?
WHY NOT USE THE ORIGINAL NAME YOUR SUPPOSED ANCESTORS GAVE THE TOWN
ESPECIALLY IF YOUR ETHNICITY HAS BEEN LIVING THERE IN CONTINUITY SINCE
THE DAYS OF THE BIBLE???? How do you whacky propagandists explain
this????

The bottom line: Today's ex-Bulgarian 'ethnic Macedonians' ARE NOT
RELATED TO THE MACEDONIANS OF THE ROMAN ERA!
Koulakiotis
2006-03-20 21:45:21 UTC
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Post by Macedon
Inspired by the Sub-Saharan coloured vision of Macedonia and Macedonian
history, I am enclosing the following passages from the Bible.
Acts 16:9
During the night Paul had a vision of a man of Macedonia standing and
begging him, "Come over to Macedonia and help us."
Acts 16:10
After Paul had seen the vision, we got ready at once to leave for Macedonia,
concluding that God had called us to preach the gospel to them.
Acts 16:12
From there we traveled to Philippi, a Roman colony and the leading city of
that district of Macedonia. And we stayed there several days.
Acts 18:5
When Silas and Timothy came from Macedonia, Paul devoted himself exclusively
to preaching, testifying to the Jews that Jesus was the Christ.
Acts 19:21
After all this had happened, Paul decided to go to Jerusalem, passing
through Macedonia and Achaia. "After I have been there," he said, "I must
visit Rome also."
Acts 19:22
He sent two of his helpers, Timothy and Erastus, to Macedonia, while he
stayed in the province of Asia a little longer.
Acts 19:29
Soon the whole city was in an uproar. The people seized Gaius and
Aristarchus, Paul's traveling companions from Macedonia, and rushed as one
man into the theater.
Acts 20:1
When the uproar had ended, Paul sent for the disciples and, after
encouraging them, said good-by and set out for Macedonia.
Acts 20:3
Because the Jews made a plot against him just as he was about to sail for
Syria, he decided to go back through Macedonia.
Acts 27:2
We boarded a ship from Adramyttium about to sail for ports along the coast
of the province of Asia, and we put out to sea. Aristarchus, a Macedonian
from Thessalonica, was with us.
Romans 15:26
For Macedonia and Achaia were pleased to make a contribution for the poor
among the saints in Jerusalem.
1 Corinthians 16:5
After I go through Macedonia, I will come to you-for I will be going through
Macedonia.
2 Corinthians 1:16
I planned to visit you on my way to Macedonia and to come back to you from
Macedonia, and then to have you send me on my way to Judea.
2 Corinthians 2:13
I still had no peace of mind, because I did not find my brother Titus there.
So I said good-by to them and went on to Macedonia.
2 Corinthians 7:5
For when we came into Macedonia, this body of ours had no rest, but we were
harassed at every turn-conflicts on the outside, fears within.
2 Corinthians 8:1
And now, brothers, we want you to know about the grace that God has given
the Macedonian churches.
2 Corinthians 9:2
For I know your eagerness to help, and I have been boasting about it to the
Macedonians, telling them that since last year you in Achaia were ready to
give; and your enthusiasm has stirred most of them to action.
2 Corinthians 9:4
For if any Macedonians come with me and find you unprepared, we-not to say
anything about you-would be ashamed of having been so confident.
2 Corinthians 11:9
And when I was with you and needed something, I was not a burden to anyone,
for the brothers who came from Macedonia supplied what I needed. I have kept
myself from being a burden to you in any way, and will continue to do so.
Philippians 4:15
Moreover, as you Philippians know, in the early days of your acquaintance
with the gospel, when I set out from Macedonia, not one church shared with
me in the matter of giving and receiving, except you only;
1 Thessalonians 1:7
And so you became a model to all the believers in Macedonia and Achaia.
1 Thessalonians 1:8
The Lord's message rang out from you not only in Macedonia and Achaia-your
faith in God has become known everywhere. Therefore we do not need to say
anything about it,
1 Thessalonians 4:10
And in fact, you do love all the brothers throughout Macedonia. Yet we urge
you, brothers, to do so more and more.
1 Timothy 1:3
As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you
may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer.
Slavomacedon,
It was not necessary for you to list all these passages from the Bible in
order to prove that ancient Macedonians did exist. Of course they did.

But, do explain to us, what connection do the present-day FYROMIANS have to
the ancient Macedonians!!!

Kiro Gligorov, ex-President of FYROM:
"We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century ... we are not
descendants of the ancient Macedonians."
(from the Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe, February
26, 1992, p. 35. )

As you see, I do not ask what connection you have to the ancient
Macedonians. Probably your roots can be traced to those Macedodians that
were slavicized centuries ago. Your village Gradobor was full of them some
decades ago.

Now, you being a Slavomacedonian and supporting views of a foreign country,
is suspicious, very suspicious.

Regards,
Koulakiotis
Macedon
2006-03-20 22:31:00 UTC
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Koulakiotis,
Very quickly:
My grandmothers grandfather was one of the richest people in Gradobor.
My grandmothers father was one of the wealthiest people in Salonica.
My grandmother was one of the poorest people in Salonica.
Do you know why, my friend? Because thats how the Greeks saw the
"greekness" in my family after they took the power. They were destroyed
by the officials because they were different. I am not exadurating.
What was the excuse? He was helping the comitjadi. I could now boast
that he was, but unfortunately he was not. Greek officials were aware
of the difference, they were coming up with excuses to destroy the
"barbarians". You are from the neighbourhood, you also know the
difference. And, as far as I know, they did not speak Slav. My father
learned Macedonian at age 22.
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